Session Three: Nothing Special: Stop Activating Karmic Aftermath

Questions and Answers

Conceptual Thought and Conceptual Cognition

We talked about unawareness, impulses and feelings. It seems like the feelings come after the unawareness and the impulse. I wonder if the thoughts that we have come before feelings.

Feelings arise of being happy or unhappy and we don’t need to think about it. The thinking process comes in when we over-react to it. We think “this is so terrible,” or “this is so wonderful.” We want it to go away or not go away. That can be with or without thinking. What do we actually mean by thinking? Is thinking the same as conceptual cognition? This is usually called conceptual thought but this just confuses the two. Normally, in our Western way of classifying things, we regard thinking as a mental verbal process. We think with words and that is what we call thinking. However, that is only one form of conceptual cognition.

Conceptual cognition is with a category. We have individual items, all these things in front of us that we see, and we fit them into a category. These things in front of me right now would be in the category of people, or Norwegians. I am able to relate to all these colored shapes that I am seeing as being people or Norwegians. There is a bowl in front of me; and the category of apples, and they are all apples. There are individual items but there is some common characteristic that helps me identify them as apples or people or Norwegians. Then, we have words that are associated with it and designated onto them. 

Let’s use a more relevant example to what we have been discussing. We have different experiences and we have a category of happy and one of unhappy, don’t we? Every moment of experience is different. When we feel happy or unhappy, it isn’t exactly the same feeling. Additionally, what you or I experience is very different; yet, we have the categories of happy or unhappy and we fit all these individual experiences into them. When we experience these, we experience them through the category of happy or unhappy. The dog has that as well; we as humans associate words with that. However, we don’t have to have a word for these categories. Verbal thinking is thinking with the words. Conceptual thinking is thinking with the categories, whether we have words or not. These categories and the words are useful. Without them we don’t have communication.

Two Types of Categories

There are two types of categories. There are object categories, such as all these items are in the category of happiness or all these items are apples. The other type is the audio category. If we ask everyone in the room to say the word “happy,” all of those sounds are different with different voices, volumes, and pronunciation. How do we understand that all of these are saying the same word? It’s because we have the audio category of the sound and the word that we have associated with it. This is how speech works.

It’s absolutely necessary and we shouldn’t think that conceptual thought is something terrible. Buddhas don’t have it; that is true, however, a Buddha is able to communicate anyway. But, for us, we could not possibly have communication without these concepts. The problem is that we have all sorts of associations with these categories. We add on, for example, that happiness is the most fantastic thing in the word and we have to have it and it has to never go away. We add all sorts of qualities to it, such as unhappiness is the worst thing in the world. We can have a preconception of what we think all Norwegians are like, for example. Then we have problems from these preconceptions and prejudices. That is conceptual thought and it doesn’t have to be, it’s absolutely not always verbal.

Quieting the voice in our minds is just a very difficult baby step. To overcome conceptual thinking in our meditation is only the first step. It also includes overcoming all these prejudices and preconceptions and expectations. It’s not verbal. When we activate our karmic potentials with craving, thirsting and obtainer attitudes, we are seeing these in a conceptual category of happiness, unhappiness or neutral, but then we are exaggerating and adding qualities to it. When we analyze concepts, conceptual thinking, we need to differentiate between conceiving the happiness or unhappiness we feel as a thing and what we conceive of as being the qualities of it. We make it into a thing, like putting a line around it and encapsulating it as if in plastic. It is a thing: now we are feeling happiness or now we are feeling love. 

There is a great example of this. How do we know if we love someone or like them? What is the boundary between liking and loving someone? It’s conceptual, isn’t it? Now, we have love, as a thing. In the context of it being a thing, we have all conceptual process of all the qualities, such as “it’s the most fantastic thing in the world and it’s going to last forever,” and all of that. First we have to get rid of that and then we work on making a thing out of it in the first place. 

Nevertheless, conventionally, we need words and categories to be able to communicate. It’s functional. Still, because of this process of activating the karmic impulses, we want to at least not make a big thing out of what we feel, even though we recognize feeling happy or unhappy. We need to stop the exaggerations about any of this being the most wonderful or most terrible thing in the world that we want to last forever or to never to end. We need to stop thinking “me, me, me,” and “poor me,” and all of that.

The conceptual process is there, but it certainly doesn’t have to be verbal and, in fact, most of the time it is not. Conceptual thought is with categories and putting things into boxes.

I can understand “nothing special” in relation to moods, but, if there is someone deeply psychotic or depressed, it would be very difficult for this person to say “nothing special.” I get stuck there because I wonder if there is a way to help this person with this process.

Yes, it would be inadvisable. From my experience and from what others have noticed as well, people need to be a bit emotionally stable and mature in order to practice the Dharma. When someone is really very disturbed mentally and so on, Dharma is too strong a medicine. That person needs professional help. With depression, it might be medication or whatever. Only when we are relatively stable, can we start to really apply Dharma methods. Meditation is not what we would recommend to someone who is clinically depressed. This is too much.

It’s the same thing in terms of the voidness or emptiness teachings. We don’t teach this to a child or young teenager. We can’t deconstruct the self before we have established the conventional self. Young people are developing this sense of being a conventional individual self, not just a part of the parents. Only when they have this sense of a conventional self can we then start to deconstruct the projections that they might have about the conventional self. If this is done prematurely, they are left with nothing and that is very psychologically dangerous. It can lead to feeling that “I don’t exist at all and therefore it doesn’t matter what I do.” 

It’s the same type of theory that we don’t apply the strong medicine prematurely when someone isn’t ready. The attitude of “nothing special” is not for someone who is really depressed. We are just talking about ordinary life, with ordinary moods going up and down, but we are fairly stable and functional.

Positive Force and Deep Awareness

In analyzing my experience to see if I am projecting exaggerations onto my experience, in regard to non-verbal conceptual cognition, I don’t think I could recognize or know to ask the right questions about the more subtle processes going on. My experience is that when in retreat and meditating more for several days, as things come up, I can more readily understand and see things in a different ways or flavor. This is without analytical questions. It isn’t logical sometimes; it just changes and I don’t have words for it.

Yes, this happens. First, in order to be able to apply these teachings on the twelve links, we need to hear about it, understand and learn it, think about what it means and become convinced that it makes sense and so on. We can’t observe the mental factors, for example, if we’ve never heard about them. That comes first. Then, in terms of insight, we always speak about what is usually called the two collections. I find this a bit misleading because it sounds like a collection of stamps when it is actually more like a network. It’s not merit in the sense that we collect points, but it’s a positive force. It’s like charging a battery. The other network is wisdom or deep awareness.

It is absolutely essential to understand what is meant by having to build up enough merit to understand something. That’s true, but if we don’t get the correct terminology, we get the wrong impression and put it into the wrong category. It’s not that if we do certain practices, we will earn it because we’ve done 100,000 prostrations or whatever to earn an understanding. When we do constructive actions, the most general category being helping others and having kind thoughts to others, it builds up positive force. What is actually happening is that we are opening up our minds and hearts to more and more others and for more happiness and benefit for others. This has an effect. The more we open up like this, the more our minds open up to being able to understand things. We’re not locked into our preconceptions. 

I think it’s quite rational that the more positive force we build up by thinking of others and opening our minds and hearts that it will enable us to make progress and achieve more insights and understanding. Just sitting there with “me, me, me,” meditation and “I have to get this insight,” and “I have to get perfect concentration, and I have to get this or that,” is very closed and tight. It’s hard to make progress, unless we make equal effort into actually getting out there and helping people, developing more love and compassion and concern for others. If we are too focused on ourselves and “my” meditation and “my” progress and “my” mind, it’s very difficult.

There are two types of retreat. There is a meditation retreat and a retreat in which we help others.

Sometimes, we need to do that when we aren’t making any progress in our meditation. We need to put in an intensive period when we are actually helping others, and then go back. We usually discover that it will make a big difference.

Reflecting on the attitude of nothing special, a few things came up that I would like to share. I can see if I am in a bad mood, okay; no big deal and that’s how it is with ups and downs. But, on the other hand, it might be quite problematic in social life with communication with others. If someone is saying that they fell in love and now they are getting married and it’s so wonderful, and I answer that this is nice, but no big deal, I won’t make friends like that. How do we get along with this in samsara?

It’s all about how we apply these things. It’s nothing special that we are in a bad mood, but, if someone else is depressed, from our point of view, it’s nothing special, and we don’t freak out. We don’t think that it’s such a big deal that they are sad, and we don’t know what to do, and we can’t deal with it. We don’t tell the person that it’s nothing special. There is the expression “Man up!” This means be a man and take it. It can be said to a woman as well. That’s not skillful at all. This is applied only in terms of how we respond to the other person. For instance, it’s nothing special that the baby is crying. Babies cry; without freaking out, we see what is bothering the baby and try to remedy it.

“Nothing special” is referring to our own attitude about our own suffering or encounters. We take it seriously when another person is very unhappy. Often what others want is just someone to listen to them. A common attitude of men toward a woman crying is that it’s a leaky pipe and how do we fix it. In fact, a person crying just wants someone to listen to them and understand. They don’t want someone to fix it as if it’s a leaking pipe. If someone is unhappy, we listen to them without over-exaggerating it in terms of how we deal with it. “Nothing special” doesn’t mean that it’s not important for the other person. 

Also, if we are feeling unhappy, it will pass, so we take steps not to get lost in it or identify with it. We don’t think that it’s the worst thing in the world and that it will never change. We deal with it.

Clarification of Feeling a Level of Happiness and Unhappiness and Emotions

With the tendency in our culture to be intellectual and analytical, in a way it’s easy if things aren’t a big deal, in a way maybe it’s suppressing and becoming a bit cold. Maybe we won’t feel the emotions. There is so much technology and metaphors about us being like machines, heavy headed and non-physical and thereby disembodied and de-personalized. Not showing emotions is also becoming a trend here. It’s a pitfall to lose some of the juice. I was glad that you said grace and wondering about that. Is that the love and compassion?

The problem here is that the word “feeling” in English refers to both feeling a level of happy and unhappy, as well as the emotions. We are not talking about the emotions here. We are only talking about happy, unhappy, or neutral. That doesn’t block the emotions. When we have the attitude of nothing special about being happy, that doesn’t mean that we don’t enjoy things. We enjoy it for what it is. We enjoy listening to nice music, or a good meal. There is nothing wrong with that. The issue is with clinging onto it and not wanting it to end and getting upset about it. It’s the same thing with sadness. When we have a loss, for instance if someone dies, of course we feel sad. It is sad, but we don’t make such a huge thing about it. We grieve in a healthy manner; and we know that as life goes on we get on with our lives. This doesn’t block the emotions. We express our emotions when it’s appropriate, to the appropriate audience. We don’t tell our children, for example, that we are so miserable and feel so insecure and so on. A child is not the appropriate person to share that with. We need to use discrimination.

What we want to overcome are the negative, destructive and disturbing emotions. This doesn’t mean that we bottle it up inside. We apply opponents to overcome being under the control of anger, greed, and so on. This deals with overcoming the attitude about the self and how we use all these mechanisms to try to make it secure. If we feel unhappy and make it into a big deal, as in “Poor me; I am so unhappy,” that really becomes a block to feeling love and compassion for anyone. If we don’t make a big deal about our passing unhappiness, but instead focus on the multitudes of other people feeling unhappiness with the hope that they will become happy, that actually helps us to overcome unhappiness. It doesn’t block it; in fact, it enables us to have these positive feelings regardless of whatever level of happiness or unhappiness we are experiencing. On the other hand, if we get too caught up with pleasure, then again we don’t think about anyone else.

Again, we need to differentiate what is meant by “feeling.” Even though the same word is used for emotions and some level of happiness or unhappiness, these are two very distinct things.

Understanding and Accepting Beginningless Time

Thinking about no beginning and no end; I don’t understand that. I can in some way relate to it, but can’t really grasp it. Even looking at the stars, I can’t understand that there is no end. 

This is a very complicated topic. What does it mean to understand something and accept something as a truth? We can understand, just from a logical argument that a nothing can’t turn into a something; and a something can’t turn into a nothing. If a continuity is progressing, there has to be prior and later moments. We have this in the law of conservation of matter and energy. It can’t be created or destroyed; only transformed. We can intellectually understand something, as the term is used in the West, but it’s not that difficult to understand the argument. However, to accept that it’s true is the problem. To understand that there are zillions of galaxies with even more stars and planets, it’s hard for our minds to encompass all of that. We can understand that is the case, but to really accept it and deal with it is more difficult.

What do we accept in terms of beginningless matter and energy? In other words, before the Big Bang, were there other universes in space and they ended and then there’s the Big Bang? If there’s a Big Bang, there has to be some circumstance that causes the Big Bang to start. Otherwise, we would have big bangs in every moment or just randomly. There has to be something before. If one posits God before that, then how did God start? It has no beginning. If we posit nothing before, when did the nothing start? It has no beginning. There is always no beginning. However, the problem is accepting it and the consequences. To accept this means to accept the consequences.

What are the consequences of accepting a beginningless individual mental continuum? It wasn’t created by somebody else; it didn’t come from nowhere, so whatever we are experiencing, we are responsible for. That’s the consequence. It’s not going to end when we die. It’s going to have further consequences. This enables us to take more responsibility. That is what follows from it. If what follows from it makes sense and helps us to lessen our suffering, it confirms why Buddha taught this. He taught it to help us lessening our suffering.

Understanding something is just one part of the process. That’s not so difficult if it’s explained properly, then we can pass the exam and spout back what the teaching is about. However, accepting it means seeing the consequences and how it affects our lives. This involves the entire analysis of the practical application of the teachings to actually help to lessen our problems. When it’s helpful, we can accept it more readily. This is the way to work with it. 

If we say, for example, that there was a beginning created by a higher power, then it’s not our responsibility. If we give up responsibility for our actions, how does that affect our lifestyles? These are the things to examine in terms of accepting the explanation. What are the benefits and what follows from it? Are there any disadvantages?

Rebirth

What transmigrates or travels from life to life?

What continues is the subtlest consciousness or subtlest mind with the subtlest energy supporting it. As an imputation on that, there is the conventional self. In the next session, we will discuss what that actually means. This includes the karmic tendencies and the tendencies of all the mental factors, such as concentration, anger, love, etc.

Can we call it a soul?

Can we call it a soul? Yes, in a certain sense. I was quite surprised recently because I hadn’t heard His Holiness the Dalai Lama use the word “soul.” I went to some teachings of his in Holland, and he used the word. However, the question is what the characteristics of the soul are. Whether we call it soul or self, it is a matter of terminology. The Sanskrit word is “atman.” There is a conventional atman, and the atman that is to be refuted, because it doesn’t refer to anything at all. But conventionally we are people, we are individuals. We are persons.

Is the number of souls finite?

It is finite. The word used to describe this is “countless.” It is finite in the sense that there are no new souls being created. That implies a beginning and there is no beginning. The mental continuum continues once enlightened. The word “countless” is a term for the largest unit in the Sanskrit way of classifying numbers. It’s ten, with sixty zeros after it. That is the word “countless.” I use the English word “zillion” for this, a very very large number.

Let’s end with a dedication for today. Whatever understanding and whatever positive force has come from this, may it go deeper and deeper and act as a cause for everyone to achieve the enlightened state of a Buddha for the benefit of us all.

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